Pinned Items
Recent Activities
  • Mark created a new forum post in ATA 28 Fuel Systems
    We recently had an aircraft that the "Overfill Reset" button had to be held at the fueling panel for the aircraft to take fuel.

    The 767 has two short fuel probes located in each wing's surge tank located at the very outboard side of each wing.

    If these probes have fuel on them the Fuel Level Sensor Control card will remove power from the fueling valves.

    The system keeps fuel from puking out of the wing tip onto the ground.

    The actual probe is not visible in this image. It is located behind the panel that has the terminals on it.
      
      
     
      
      
    The card is located in the P50 panel. If the card doesn't sense fuel on either probe, it provides a ground on pin 3.

    The probes are just like regular tank probes. As a guess, I'd say they are about 5 inches long. A dry probe has a capacitance value between 6.5pF to 8pF.

    Fuel quantity probes (approximately) double their capacitance when they are submersed in fuel.

    The easiest way to troubleshoot this type of problem is to pull the card and ground pin 3.

    This basically breaks the system in half. If the valves work with the pin grounded, the problem is with the card or probes. If they don't work, the problem is with the control relays or further downstream.
      
      
     
      
      
    The circuit is below.

    K357 is just a power transfer relay. Power is normally supplied by the ground holding bus, but battery power can be used also.

    When the fueling door is opened, K179 energizes. It provides power to K180,  K181, and the card.

    K180 has a 1.1 second time delay before energizing. During this short time, the card looks at the probes and provides the pin 3 ground.

    The ground path for K181 initially goes through A3-A2 contacts of K180. After the 1.1 seconds, that ground path is removed.

    K181 will have a new coil ground path through its own A3-A1 contacts and pin 3 of the card.

    As long as the card doesn't see fuel on the probes, that ground path will keep K181 energized and power is available for the fueling valves.
    If fuel hits the surge tanks, the card drops pin 3 off. K181 relaxes and power is removed from the valves.

    The second path coming off X2 of K181 is the ground provided by the reset switch if it is pushed in at the panel. (Fuelers get frustrated if they have to keep pushing this button throughout the fueling process. No overflow protection is available either.)
      
      
     
      
      
    1. View Thread →
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    Post is under moderation
    Stream item published successfully. Item will now be visible on your stream.
  • Mark created a new forum post in ATA 31 Instruments
    Inbound write-up:

    At 8500' with gear up in a clean configuration and throttles at idle, red "Gear Not Down" and "Gear Disagree" EICAS warnings for approximately 30 seconds. 
      
      
       
         (A larger image can be found  here . Schematics Manual 31-51-04.) 
      
      
    So what's going on here???

    If the aircraft "thinks" you're in landing configuration, but the gear is not down..... it's going to let you know about it.

    The warning circuit is looking at three basic conditions. Throttle position, flaps/slats position, and radio altimeter inputs.

    One biggie for a warning is the aircraft below 800' radio altitude and the gear not down. Our write-up didn't fall into this condition.

    What we found for this particular write-up was a logged slat position sensor error in the Proximity Unit's fault history.

    The logic saw this as "the throttles are at idle", "flaps/slats are NOT in a clean wing condition", and "the gear is not down." 

    We found the faulted slat position sensor target with a gap beyond tolerance. Once adjusted..... no more issues have occurred.
    1. View Thread →
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    Post is under moderation
    Stream item published successfully. Item will now be visible on your stream.
  • Same concept used for "Wheel Well Fire Loops"
    Only one aircraft checked, but I had about 330 ohms across pins 15 and 16 at fire test panel.
    This value is "way" out of tolerance.
    Total loop resistance should be less than 20 ohms.
      
      
      
     
      
    1. View Reply
    2. View Thread →
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    Post is under moderation
    Stream item published successfully. Item will now be visible on your stream.
  • Mark replied to the topic Emergency Lights in ATA 33 Lights
    Bent down...... They had to be carefully straightened out (with power removed from charger).
    1. View Reply
    2. View Thread →
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    Post is under moderation
    Stream item published successfully. Item will now be visible on your stream.
  • Mark created a new forum post in ATA 49 - APU
    APU was not starting. History stated that it would make approximately 30% and shutdown. I didn't try a start in the failed condition.

    The ECU was showing a inlet door failure.
      
      
     
      
      
    The ECU needs to receive a ground signal indicating the inlet door is open. I'm surprised a start would be initiated with the door not showing fully open.

    I "fooled" the system and had a successful start.

    Looking at the schematic.....
      
      
     
      
      
    If you pull relay K176 and jumper B2 (28 VDC) to B1 (door actuator "open" coil), you can command the door to open. (B2 to B3 will close it.)
      
      
     
      
      
    With the door open, relay K547 should be energized which provides the ground signal to the ECU on pin 2. I visually verified the door was open and jumped pin 2 to ground.
      
      
     
      
      
    With the good start, the only conclusion would be a bad or malfunctioning door sensor. This switch is made when a magnetic target is in close proximity.

    The switch can be verified as good or bad by checking for a ground at pin 7 of K547 with the door open.

    I didn't see the issue first hand, but there was a busted rivet on the target. Along with a target gap that was over limits.
      
      
     
      
      
     
       
     
    1. View Thread →
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    Post is under moderation
    Stream item published successfully. Item will now be visible on your stream.
There are no activities here yet
Unable to load tooltip content.