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  • OG GarlicSalt created a new forum post in ATA 29 Hydraulic Systems
    Working on Hawker 900XP with an intermittent HYD OVHT MWS light.

       

    This fault has some history and they had the reservoir temperature sensor changed at the last MX visit. Typically, the fault comes when its above 100 degrees out and the aircraft has been sitting on the ramp with the APU running.

    This type of fault is definitely not in my wheelhouse, with some hindsight there are quite a few things I would have done differently to isolate the issue much quicker. First, I will go through what we did and how I would do it differently in the future

    First things first the aircraft has no traditional hydraulic cooling system to investigate so the manual states that a component is bypassing causing the reservoir to raise in temperature and eventually send the OVHT MWS.

    First thing we did to establish a base was performed the main accumulator pressure decay test to see if the accumulator could hold pressure. We first had to block the spoiler bypass system which is a mod that is supposed to aid in cooling the hydraulics.

     

    After blocking that we hooked up the mule and pressurized the system to 3000psi, watched the main accumulator go up then kill the mule. The pressure is supposed to hold for at least 20 seconds before dropping. In our case the pressure dropped instantly.

    Next thing we tried to do was pull the aux hydraulic handle in the flight deck. This should separate the landing gear system from the main system. If we tested it again and the test passed we would know that the fault is somewhere in the landing gear hydraulic system. With the landing gear isolated from the system we ran the test again but still failed.

    At this point we decided to go after the low hanging fruit and disconnect some of the main component returns to see if they bypass under pressure. We tried nose wheel steering, brakes, emergency brakes, main accumulator discharge handle. All of these components check good so we decided to start digging into it.



    Next thing we did was to cap the hydraulic pressure manifold inlet line, this will isolate the components side from the full flow relief valves and other upstream components. With this capped we now have a passing test, which tells us that the issue is downstream of the pressure manifold.

    At this point we decided to check the pressure maintaining valve located underneath the main reservoir behind an access panel for bypass. We had to fully isolate the other systems from the pressure manifold leaving only the maintaining valve in the system and performed the test again. We found that the maintaining valve  was bypassing. At this point I plugged the return side of the maintaining valve and tried the test again all good. I reconnected the systems one at a time retesting each time and still everything passed. Pressure maintaining valve confirmed to be the defective part. Removed and replaced the part and aircraft was back in service without issue.






    Now this process took me about 3 shifts to T/S and one to replace the part, and knowing what I do know I would have approached this a lot differently.  If I were to work this problem again and found the original pressure decay tests to fail, I would go straight to the pressure manifold. I would disconnect the runs one by one rechecking the pressure with each. I would keep doing this until the pressure test passed and that would then show me the system with the failed component. This would eliminate removing a lot of hard to get at lines and opening components to check for leakage. Using this approach, I feel we could have had this solved in one day or less. It doesn’t help trying to decipher the vague statements in the hawker AMM either.
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  • They have the WDM online but not aircraft specific so 75% of the time your going to the old paper copy to find out how the airplane was completed. There was no reference to a thermal discharge but there was a metal shard that looked like it was originally the cap to the bottle, not sure if it was made to let go at a certain temperature or the bottle just got so hot and overpressurized. Doesn't help when ambient temp is 120 + running the apu with a duct leak.
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  • Software updates are constant Emaps ECharts, EGPWS, terrain database, nav database. All the airplanes load a diffrent way with diffrent programs ect. Atleast the newer aircraft are alot more user friendly pop the software on a USB and go.
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